Monday, May 31, 2010

Market Profile-Day types

We seem to be having an enthusiastic bunch of readers who want to know more about Market Profile. I am all for enthusiasm and never the one to put down will.So without further ado, let's add to the classroom these notes on the different day types.These are important for you to understand if you are a serious day trader.


Normal Day

The first and most basic day structure is the Normal Day. It is characterized by a wide ranging initial balance, or first two time periods of the day. On a normal day the bell curve will develop generally within the range of the initial balance, with little outside influence to tip the market much beyond the initial balance. On a normal day there is often limited range extension that is the market may extend beyond the initial balance by a small amount, and then return
back into the value area. Some days will show little or no range extension. A wide range in the first hour of the day session still seems to imply a normal day.


Normal variation day.

This day structure is characterized by a still wide, but somewhat smaller initial balance. In this case the initial balance represent closer to half the finished profile, with range extension early enough in the day to create a fairly normal bell curve. When watching this day structure develop, it is not known that the day will result in a normal variation day until it is well into development. But there are some clues... opening 30 min ( A ) period is well above/below the value area of the previous day and prices quickly rejected those prices. The range of the A period and subsequent next 30 min ( B )period is fairly wide, however there is little rotation and development, as prices are quick to reject the previous prices and prices start to build value in a new area. The rejection of the previous prices and the building of value higher in the day structure and (slightly) higher than the previous day value area has implications for continuation higher the next day. Again, not a prediction of higher prices, but a reason to be watching for continuation.



Neutral day


This appears similar, at first glance, to the normal day structure. However, there are differences that make this a neutral day. The main difference is that the initial balance is somewhat smaller, similar to the normal-variation day. However, the range extension does not extend far enough to allow development of the bell curve above or below the initial balance. Instead, prices return into the initial balance, and most often will try a range extension on the opposite end of the developing structure. Again prices will fail to extend far enough to allow rotation to change the developing value area. Thus, a normal shaped bell curve begins to develop in the middle of the range, with only moderate range extension on either side. This example is quite symmetrical. No two profiles are the same, so there will always be some variations and possibly overlap with other types of day structures. Another characteristic of the neutral day is the close proximity of the open and the close. A candlestick chart would often show a doji, perhaps with similar implications depending on where the doji occurred within the price trend. However the market profile graphic contain much more useful information than the candlestick. One more important characteristic of the neutral-day is that quite often the value area will overlap with the previous day. As the name would suggest, there is little forward price implication from the neutral day.


Non trend day


This is characterized by a narrow range day with a fat profile. There seems to be random rotation with little price movement on either side of the profile, thus developing a short and fat profile. These days can occur prior to important announcements, long weekends or holidays, or at market exhaustion points. Most traders will simply complain that the market is choppy and untradable on these days. They will often look for excuses to leave the market alone and focus on something else. This is often a big mistake. On non-trend days the Market Profile trader, in other words, the aware and astute trader, should be on the lookout for clues and ready for a breakout. It is when the market is making a narrow range that a large range, and possibly trend day, will occur in the next day or two. If you study enough charts it will become evident that small range days often precede large range days, sometimes with major trends following. And conversely, large range days often exhaust the buying or selling power,and smaller range days are seen the next day. Often the direction of the breakout of the non-trend day is difficult to anticipate. However, since a range expansion is likely, it is best to be ready with a plan for when the breakout occurs, which is often the very next day.


Trend day

A trend day will usually begin with a small initial balance, much the same in appearance to the non-trend day. However, early in the day structure range extension occurs. This range extension does not allow a value area to develop in the initial balance, and the range extension continues throughout the day. There are often periods of single prints on the profile. Most important, there is very little rotation from time period to time period. In other words, each half-hour segment drive prices further in the direction of the trend. Sometimes one of the time segments will have a bit of rotation in the opposite direction, but price usually will resume the trend. The range of a trend day is wide and the profile absent, rotation is thin. Obviously the open will occur at one end of the trend day, and the close will be near the opposite end.


Double distribution trend day

A variation on the trend day is the double distribution trend day. This day starts off much like a trend day, however there begins to be rotation with a bell curve beginning to develop during much of the day. It appears that more of a normal variation day will result. But then new information enters the market and range extension occurs and drives prices to a new area. At some point the move is shut off, usually overshooting, and then another bell curve begins to develop. The resulting profile will have two areas of price rotation, which are usually separated by an area of single prints. These days can often occur on surprise announce or event occurs. The market goes from balance, to imbalance as the news drives the market to a new level, and then back to some sort of balance as the news is digested.

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So which day did we see today???

10 comments:

Shai said...

So which day did we see today???

Clues :

Friday was a neutral day.
Expiry day was a trend day...

sara said...

Sir,
I say today also a Neutral day.. Why i say this, after the market open in mid session it try to come down till 5015.30. That mean try a range extend in the opposite end of the developing structure but failed.From there it try to moved till morning high and the day end at previous day high.

dangi said...

In the end it was a neutral extreme day
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from your last post..

Local said...

I'm completely new to profiling (and this site:) - could you draw us a picture like this

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or give a chart for each type just so we can see what we're looking for? Thanks!

Girish Desai said...

Like Yoda, I would have liked to see the MP chart posted for better visualization. My best guess is "Neutral Day" with an attempted range extension.

PS: I did ask you a question about what quote source you are using for feeding it to Amibroker. Please respond if it can be revealed.

Shai said...

Sara & Dangi,

Well said !

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Girish,

I use esignal.

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Yoda,

I will put up more charts. At the moment we are working on the fundamentals. Advise you to catch the posts in the forum to your right.

veer said...

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Unknown said...

Dear Shai,
If I don't mistaken,today..tuesday is a trending day with negative bias as price at either ends are in opposite direction.

Vtrender said...

Veer,

Thanks for all the links.

Amrishali,

In a trend day, prices do not rotate. We saw a very large rotation in the morning.The day today was a double distribution day.

The selling at the end seemed to be a bit overdone, especially below our 4954 pivot. I won't be surprised if markets attempt to go up in the morning tomorrow.Open above 4954 will confirm that.

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